{"id":4584,"date":"2024-01-14T15:23:32","date_gmt":"2024-01-14T15:23:32","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/seniorfitness.blog\/?p=4584"},"modified":"2024-01-20T21:49:43","modified_gmt":"2024-01-20T21:49:43","slug":"relativ-vs-absolut-risiko-med-hormonerstatningsterapi-som-eksempel","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/seniorfitness.blog\/?p=4584","title":{"rendered":"Relativ vs absolut risiko &#8211; med hormonerstatningsterapi som eksempel"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I forl\u00e6ngelse af indslaget omkring et nyt medicinsk pr\u00e6parat (<a href=\"https:\/\/seniorfitness.blog\/?p=4577\">Veoza<\/a>) mod hedeture I overgangsalderen har jeg valgt et lille udklip fra en bog, jeg er i f\u00e6rd med at l\u00e6se. Det er en tankev\u00e6kkende passage, som kan s\u00e6tte tingene lidt i perspektiv, n\u00e5r man l\u00e6ser om fors\u00f8gsresultater, hvor der angives en relativ risiko frem for den absolutte.<\/p>\n<p>Teksten er fra den amerikanske l\u00e6ge Peter Attias bog: <em>Outlive \u2013 The Science and Art of Longevity<\/em> (2023), og er angivet p\u00e5 originalsprog \u2013 med en dansk overs\u00e6ttelse nedenfor:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cThere are many examples of how Medicine 2.0 gets risk wrong, but one of the most egregious has to do with hormone replacement therapy (HRT) for postmenopausal women, long entrenched as standard practice before the results of the Women\u2019s Health Initiative Study (WHI) were published in 2002. This large clinical trial, involving thousands of older women, compared a multitude of health outcomes in women taking HRT versus those who did not take it. The study reported a 24 percent relative increase in the risk of breast cancer among a subset of women taking HRT, and headlines all over the world condemned HRT as a dangerous, cancer-causing therapy. All of a sudden, on the basis of this one study, hormone replacement treatment became virtually taboo.<\/p>\n<p>This reported 24 percent risk increase sounded scary indeed. But nobody seemed to care that the absolute risk increase of breast cancer for women in the study remained minuscule. Roughly five out of every one thousand women in the HRT group developed breast cancer versus four out of every thousand in the control group who received no hormones. The absolute risk increase was just 0.1 percentage point. HRT was linked to, potentially one additional case of breast cancer in every thousand patients. Yet this tiny increase in absolute risk was deemed to outweigh any benefits, meaning menopausal women would potentially be subject to hot flashes and night sweats, as well as loss of bone density and muscle mass, and other unpleasant symptoms of menopause \u2013 not to mention a potentially increased risk of Alzheimer\u2019s disease.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Dansk overs\u00e6ttelse:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;Der er mange eksempler p\u00e5, hvordan Medicin 2.0 [Peter Attias definition af sundhedsv\u00e6senets nuv\u00e6rende behandlingstilbud] tager fejl af risici, men en af de mest alvorlige handler om hormonerstatningsterapi (HRT) til postmenopausale kvinder, l\u00e6nge anerkendt som almindelig praksis, f\u00f8r resultaterne af Women\u2019s Health Initiative Study (WHI) blev offentliggjort i 2002. Denne store kliniske unders\u00f8gelse, der involverede tusinder af \u00e6ldre kvinder, sammenlignede en masse sundhedsparametre hos kvinder, der tog HRT, med dem, der ikke gjorde det. Studiet rapporterede en 24 procent relativ stigning i risikoen for brystkr\u00e6ft blandt en undergruppe af kvinder, der tog HRT, og overskrifter over hele verden ford\u00f8mte HRT som en farlig, kr\u00e6ftfremkaldende terapi. Baseret p\u00e5 dette ene studie, blev hormon erstatningsbehandling pludselig n\u00e6rmest tabubelagt.<\/p>\n<p>Den rapporterede 24 procent risikostigning l\u00f8d virkelig skr\u00e6mmende. Men ingen syntes at bekymre sig om, at den absolutte risikostigning for brystkr\u00e6ft for kvinder i unders\u00f8gelsen forblev minimal. Cirka fem ud af hver tusind kvinder i HRT-gruppen udviklede brystkr\u00e6ft, sammenlignet med fire ud af hver tusind i kontrolgruppen, der ikke fik hormoner. Den absolutte risikostigning var kun 0,1 procentpoint. HRT blev knyttet til potentielt \u00e9t yderligere tilf\u00e6lde af brystkr\u00e6ft hos hver tusinde patienter. Alligevel blev denne minimale stigning i absolut risiko anset for at opveje eventuelle fordele, hvilket bet\u00f8d, at kvinder i overgangsalderen potentielt ville v\u00e6re underlagt hedeture og natlige svedeture, samt tab af knoglet\u00e6thed og muskelmasse og andre ubehagelige symptomer p\u00e5 overgangsalderen \u2013 for ikke at n\u00e6vne en potentielt \u00f8get risiko for Alzheimers sygdom.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I tilf\u00e6lde af at man overvejer hormonbehandling til behandling af symptomer ved overgangsalderen, men er bekymret over om det f\u00f8rer til for\u00f8get risiko for forskellige f\u00f8lgesygdomme s\u00e5 f\u00e5 en snak med l\u00e6gen om, hvad denne risiko egentlig er i absolutte tal. Tal ogs\u00e5 med l\u00e6gen om hvilke valgmuligheder der er. Behandlingen kan omfatte \u00f8strogen alene eller i kombination med det progesteron-lignende gestagen. Der er mistanke om, at det er gestagen frem for \u00f8strogen, der f\u00f8rer til den lille forh\u00f8jede risiko for at udvikle brystkr\u00e6ft. Resultater fra et fransk studie antyder, at hvis der benyttes progesteron frem for gestagen, s\u00e5 ses der ikke en forh\u00f8jet risiko. Der er dog observeret en lille \u00f8get risiko for at udvikle ovariecancer ved behandling med \u00f8strogen. I den sammenh\u00e6ng er det ogs\u00e5 v\u00e6rd at overveje hvilken type pr\u00e6parat der tages; oralt (piller) eller transdermalt (plaster). Hvor f\u00f8rstn\u00e6vnte kan korreleres til \u00f8get risiko for udvikling af blodpropper har transdermale plastre en mildere risikoprofil. Under konsultationen vil l\u00e6gen ogs\u00e5 se p\u00e5 alder og tiden der er g\u00e5et\u00a0 fra sidste menstruation i forhold til risikofaktorer &#8211; og formentlig ogs\u00e5 historik i forhold til brug af brug af hormonpr\u00e6parater ved pr\u00e6vention.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>En lille note til Peter Attias indslag: Jeg er klar over at dr. Attia er taln\u00f8rd, men jeg undrede mig lidt over at incidenstallene var s\u00e5 lave. S\u00e5 jeg kiggede lidt n\u00e6rmere p\u00e5 <a href=\"https:\/\/jamanetwork.com\/journals\/jama\/article-abstract\/196804\">et studie<\/a>, der dykkede lidt i tallene fra unders\u00f8gelsen, med et brystcancerperspektiv&#8230; Tallene her er lagt frem lidt anderledes. I studiet sammenlignede man 8506 kvinder der undergik hormonbehandling med 8102 kvinder, der fik placebo. Incidenstallene er her baseret p\u00e5 en opf\u00f8lgningtid p\u00e5 knapt 6 \u00e5r &#8211; og i perioden var der 199 tilf\u00e6lde af invasiv brystcancer i hormongruppen og 150 i placebogruppen. Her vil den relative stigning ende med at at blive p\u00e5 omkring 33% i perioden. Den tilsvarende absolutte stigning i risiko vil ende p\u00e5 omkring \u00bd% &#8211; hvilket ender med, at pointen mere eller mindre stadig er den samme.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>For at s\u00e6tte streg under betydningen af at blive informeret om den absolutte risiko i forhold til unders\u00f8gelser her der en <a href=\"https:\/\/www.eufic.org\/en\/understanding-science\/article\/absolute-vs.-relative-risk-infographic\">folder<\/a> fra <a href=\"https:\/\/www.eufic.org\/en\/who-we-are\">EUFIC<\/a> (European Food Information Council), hvor man kan se endnu et eksempel: Den relative risiko for at udvikle tarmkr\u00e6ft \u00f8ges med 13% ved indtagelse af 50g\/dag af forarbejdet k\u00f8d. Den absolutte risiko er dog \u00f8get med blot 1% (fra 5,6% til 6,6%). Se nedenfor:<\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"4587\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/seniorfitness.blog\/?attachment_id=4587\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/seniorfitness.blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/absolute_vs_relative_risk_update_2020_en.png?fit=911%2C2871&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"911,2871\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"absolute_vs_relative_risk_update_2020_en\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/seniorfitness.blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/absolute_vs_relative_risk_update_2020_en.png?fit=325%2C1024&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-4587\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/seniorfitness.blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/absolute_vs_relative_risk_update_2020_en.png?resize=325%2C1024&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"325\" height=\"1024\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/seniorfitness.blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/absolute_vs_relative_risk_update_2020_en.png?resize=325%2C1024&amp;ssl=1 325w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/seniorfitness.blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/absolute_vs_relative_risk_update_2020_en.png?resize=95%2C300&amp;ssl=1 95w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/seniorfitness.blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/absolute_vs_relative_risk_update_2020_en.png?resize=768%2C2420&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/seniorfitness.blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/absolute_vs_relative_risk_update_2020_en.png?resize=487%2C1536&amp;ssl=1 487w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/seniorfitness.blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/absolute_vs_relative_risk_update_2020_en.png?resize=650%2C2048&amp;ssl=1 650w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/seniorfitness.blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/absolute_vs_relative_risk_update_2020_en.png?w=911&amp;ssl=1 911w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 325px) 100vw, 325px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>NB! Jeg h\u00e6fter en lille opdatering til dette indslag efter jeg har f\u00e5et kigget p\u00e5 indl\u00e6gssedlen til pr\u00e6paratet Norethisteron\/estrogen (2care4), som er et almindeligt benyttet behandlingspr\u00e6parat i tabletform. Her n\u00e6vnes det, at for kvinder i alderen 50-79 \u00e5r vil der gennemsnitligt stilles en brystkr\u00e6ftdiagnose p\u00e5 9-17 over en periode p\u00e5 5 \u00e5r, hvis de ikke HRT behandles. Ved behandling vil dette tal \u00f8ges med 4-6 tilf\u00e6lde pr 1000 kvinder. Risikoen vender tilbage til baggrundsniveauet inden for 5 \u00e5r efter man oph\u00f8rer med at tage produktet. I indl\u00e6gssedlen bruges alts\u00e5 absolutte tal, der g\u00f8r, at det er muligt at udregne den absolutte risiko, hvilket giver et mere reelt indtryk af pr\u00e6paratets bivirkning.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<div class=\"mh-excerpt\"><p>I forl\u00e6ngelse af indslaget omkring et nyt medicinsk pr\u00e6parat (Veoza) mod hedeture I overgangsalderen har jeg valgt et lille udklip fra en bog, jeg er <a class=\"mh-excerpt-more\" href=\"https:\/\/seniorfitness.blog\/?p=4584\" title=\"Relativ vs absolut risiko &#8211; med hormonerstatningsterapi som eksempel\">[&#8230;]<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":4592,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[12],"tags":[138,137,761,758],"class_list":["post-4584","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-baggrund","tag-menopause","tag-overgangsalder","tag-peter-attia","tag-veoza"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/seniorfitness.blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/ppt2A21.pptm-Gemt-automatisk-2.png?fit=3070%2C2302&ssl=1","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p8lpEz-1bW","jetpack-related-posts":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/seniorfitness.blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4584","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/seniorfitness.blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/seniorfitness.blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/seniorfitness.blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/seniorfitness.blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=4584"}],"version-history":[{"count":7,"href":"https:\/\/seniorfitness.blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4584\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":4596,"href":"https:\/\/seniorfitness.blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4584\/revisions\/4596"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/seniorfitness.blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/4592"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/seniorfitness.blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=4584"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/seniorfitness.blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=4584"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/seniorfitness.blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=4584"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}